tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post5214498731835886755..comments2024-02-19T12:58:32.750-05:00Comments on BUSINESS COMPLAINTS , BUSINESS SCAMS , BUSINESS REVIEWS: Envirosource PaperUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-79938732906004101242023-04-04T05:54:13.030-04:002023-04-04T05:54:13.030-04:00Envirosource Paper uses deceptive sales tactics by...Envirosource Paper uses deceptive sales tactics by quoting prices per box of paper and only revealing the actual price per 1000 sheets after a follow-up call, which they conveniently record for monitoring purposes. A customer complains that they were misled by this tactic and ended up paying an exorbitant amount for paper. Furthermore, the company claims that all orders are a minimum of 12 boxes, which was never disclosed during the initial sales call. Despite lodging a complaint, the company refuses to take any action as they have a recorded call confirming the price per 1000 sheets. The customer advises others to avoid dealing with this company, citing their misleading and high-pressure sales tactics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-4947231469625282202022-06-20T23:12:20.669-04:002022-06-20T23:12:20.669-04:00Envirosource Paper WOW! I learned new things about...Envirosource Paper WOW! I learned new things about this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-7378422692775427882015-01-28T14:42:00.354-05:002015-01-28T14:42:00.354-05:00yep, so surprised to find this still running the s...yep, so surprised to find this still running the same deal except now I heard through the grapevine offering a $100 gift card!wooohoo! you got it , criminals...someone should really nail them or scam them back...very sleezy bunch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-62592169262012745042014-12-18T14:29:04.295-05:002014-12-18T14:29:04.295-05:00Look out.. they are back as National Stationary wi...Look out.. they are back as National Stationary with invoice showing 163 sterling rd. Toronto, Ont. as address. Same old scam of sending 6 boxes of paper and then trying to collect and threatening to harm your credit if you don't pay. Rahul Raina's name has come up many times above, and was discovered in this scam as well. Please report to Competition Bureau & Canadian Anti-fraud, they have files going..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-68516820875585998162014-05-12T18:33:19.438-04:002014-05-12T18:33:19.438-04:00crook go back where you came from.get a real job.crook go back where you came from.get a real job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-74922270893249619862014-05-12T18:30:33.485-04:002014-05-12T18:30:33.485-04:00They operate out of the leslieville hidden away ne...They operate out of the leslieville hidden away near shopper's drug mart.industrial offices at queen & pape are.still up & running I think...always on the run thogh.Hope you guys get them really creepy nasty people.criminalsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-48685365139014387052012-08-28T14:33:05.094-04:002012-08-28T14:33:05.094-04:001 russel st linsay on. jeff thompson. universal da...1 russel st linsay on. jeff thompson. universal data svcs also 425 adelaide street west. rahul raina. peter harper is british and is illegal to work in canada....feel free to contact immigration or the competion bureau...has a file on them. check out sca at www.nabindex.com and webpiggy .com frogsave.com. 416 987 5780Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-3932594907362467852012-08-28T14:21:25.520-04:002012-08-28T14:21:25.520-04:00they have moved to 425 Adelaide street west ste 22...they have moved to 425 Adelaide street west ste 222. boss is rahul raina, peter harper is british goes by richard barnes jack nathan and other alias. they run webpiggy.com, frogsave.com, north amarican business index and now the paper company along with toner goes by universal data services. Peter Harper has no authority to work in canada> they paper is sent from lindsay on by jeff thompson> they also have harold moore and allison miller who is also michelle whyte> they hire convicted criminals....peter the british guyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-72249052292440005112012-06-12T21:35:01.618-04:002012-06-12T21:35:01.618-04:00This company Digital Networks System scammed my co...This company Digital Networks System scammed my company for thousands of dollars. I had to deal with Peter Harper, british. He was arrogant, rude, condescending and a liar. We are having them investigated. I had to deal with a Bill Turner, who happens to be a Harold Moore. There was a girl name Allison Miller. They all use Alias. I dealt with a Raquel once, who took a message, said she'll have someone call me back. They are all con artist. Stay away from them. Peter Harper we found out is not legal to work in Canada. So why is he scamming Canadian Businesses????? If u ppl are reading this, u are under investigation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-40037163541199804702012-06-12T21:28:38.335-04:002012-06-12T21:28:38.335-04:00PEOPLE, RAHUL RAINA AND PETER HARPER ARE RUNNING O...PEOPLE, RAHUL RAINA AND PETER HARPER ARE RUNNING ONE SCAM AFTER THE OTHER. I WENT FOR AN INTERVIEW AND BY THE TIME I LEFT, THEIR SCRIPT CHANGED 5 TIMES. THEY HAVE A SCAM RUNNING O THE STATES: NORTH AMERICAN BUSINESS INDEX, ATLANTA GA. LIARS, SCAMS, CONVICTS. STAY AWAY FROM OFFICE IMPRESSIONS AND UNIVERSAL MFG, GREENSHIELD, DIGITAL. THEY KEEP CHANGING ADDRESS. NOW ITS 425 ADELAIDE. THATS WHERE I WENT, BRIAN COYNE SELLS THE TONER AND PAPER AND HEY HAVE 5 REPS DOING FRAUD IN THE STATES. AND TWO LADIES DOING DATA ENTRY AND COLLECTION. STEPHEN LANGFORD IS THEIR MANAGER. THEY DO A GROUP BUYING SITE AS WELL TOO. THE NUMBER I GOT WAS 416 849 2898Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-18778473352707205482012-06-12T21:22:56.786-04:002012-06-12T21:22:56.786-04:00The owner is Rahul Raina, who also runs a b2b scam...The owner is Rahul Raina, who also runs a b2b scam based in Toronto, but pretends to be in Atlanta GA, USA. Apparently they have a group buying site as well. Scam!!!!Scam!!!!. This "Peter Harper" is not even physically in Canada half the time he calling companies. He should be on Canada most wanted list. I heard ppl with criminal records work for this Rahul RainaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-55603723224258902992012-06-12T21:18:57.023-04:002012-06-12T21:18:57.023-04:00This is the biggest scam company. They go by Paper...This is the biggest scam company. They go by Papermax, Greenshield, Office Impressions, Paper Ink, Universal Mfg, Digital Network systems, Ecologix, Envirosource. All the same scam. New Address as of June 1, 2012 is 425 Adelaide Street West Suite 202 and 1 Russell Street Upper Level, Lindsay ON. Owner: Rahul Raina, Jeff Thompson and Peter Harper. Peter is the british guy who intimidate people. Not legal to work in Canada.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-80361641789506967802012-06-06T01:03:59.270-04:002012-06-06T01:03:59.270-04:00They do take advantage of unsuspecting people. The...They do take advantage of unsuspecting people. The owner of all those company is Rahul Raina. The mastermind behind the scams is Peter Harper(who is british and isnt even suppose to be working in Canada). They also have an office in Lindsay, ON. They sell paper and toner to companies but buys from Staples for their office. Peter poses as a lawyer and threatens people, usually by saying he will go to their presidents. Brian Coyne sells toner. As our investigation continues we uncover that they also do a fraudulant online guide called NORTH AMERICAN BUSINESS INDEX...they have several BBB and attorney general complaints and investigators are looking into them as we speak. As our investigation continues, we have a tip of a certain group buying site link to Rahul Raina. which we will confirm later date> by now u may have guessed they moved from Richmond Street to close by 425 Adelaide Street West Suite 202> Peter Harper is a crook and a scam artist. He will be investigated. He travels back and Forth so, soon. Their location for the paper and toner is in Lindsay ON, handled by a Jeffrey Thomas> Jeff Thomas??? Senior management includes Stephen Langford (Floor Manager), Allison Miller (collections/Reception) Harry Moore (payroll) Raquel Rene (Verifier/Data entry)<br />their phone number is 416 987 5780/416 849 2898. Their days are numbered. There a bbb compaints/AG complaints/Labor board complaints against them> Report them, I urge u>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-23733494849814097022012-06-05T11:52:12.542-04:002012-06-05T11:52:12.542-04:00Well, I can tell u this much, my company has filed...Well, I can tell u this much, my company has filed complaints against them with all the right agencies in canada, so its a matter of time before they are caught. If u were or are being contacted by Paper max, paper depot, envirosource, eceologix, greenshield, digital networks, office impressions...contact the authoritiies> they are one and the same company. all head by rahul raina peter harper and jeff thompson. Peter is not legal to work in canada>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-17826614361861744172012-03-31T15:48:06.977-04:002012-03-31T15:48:06.977-04:00What a joke. This blog is undoubtedly created by p...What a joke. This blog is undoubtedly created by people who, like me, have had a TERRIBLE experience with this company. The fact that the company has had so many name changes implies a scam of sorts. I am sure the name is continually changed so the bad reputation is more or less erased every few years. I had to deal with a man who had a British accent, I believe it may have been Peter Harper, and he was the most unreasonable and rude man I have ever dealt with. I wish someone would sue this company for forming unconscionable contracts. This company clearly takes advantage of the weakness of the parties they sell to which is illegal in Canada.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-54294009646676472802011-04-20T13:37:26.178-04:002011-04-20T13:37:26.178-04:00this blog is purely a creation by disgruntled empl...this blog is purely a creation by disgruntled employeesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-27426484256168079972011-04-01T16:29:56.566-04:002011-04-01T16:29:56.566-04:00sounds to me like anon and jules works for this co...sounds to me like anon and jules works for this company. the owner is rahul raina and the british guy is peter harper. they also do business to business scam in the states as well as toner and tape and all kinds of fraud in canada 543 richmond street ste 222. rahul allison harry james and peter harper who uses all kinds of alias...i wonder if he is legal to work in canada.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-84203885760680542442010-12-16T12:49:06.611-05:002010-12-16T12:49:06.611-05:00I agree with Jules! we never had issues with this...I agree with Jules! we never had issues with this business and continue to order from them. This is the problem small businesses face when they are competing with the big box stores.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-3472526375402795402010-12-01T16:37:32.732-05:002010-12-01T16:37:32.732-05:00We get our paper from them at competitive prices a...We get our paper from them at competitive prices and have never had customer service issues. I think that people on this blog site should address their issues with the business directly instead of ranting on the Internet. Every business has its share of happy and unhappy customers. As long as the former is more than the latter they must be doing something right! Keep up the good workJulesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-68764821266455190722010-11-15T14:56:11.280-05:002010-11-15T14:56:11.280-05:00This is a scam and the anonymous comments stating ...This is a scam and the anonymous comments stating that they are a great company and provide better quality paper is obviously some of the scammers themselves.<br />Three times the price, the sales tactics, their poor handling of complaints? <br />They have never gotten any money out of us, but what about the time they waste for our disputing this scam? I have started recording all our phone calls with them. My last words were "come get your paper or I will be following up with the police". <br />They sent a courier, and the courier guy even knew about the scam they were running, he shared anecdotes about the number of shipments they send out and all the ones he would repeatedly have to return to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-5589848964740019272010-09-02T16:26:16.288-04:002010-09-02T16:26:16.288-04:00I have been buying paper from them for years. Its...I have been buying paper from them for years. Its much better quality than the what you get in the market. Our photocopier used to constantly have paper jams before, but since we started buying better quality paper we have never had this problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-36005434509219179832010-08-16T09:40:57.386-04:002010-08-16T09:40:57.386-04:00I have purchased paper from PaperMax before, they ...I have purchased paper from PaperMax before, they sent us a really great product. The prices were a bit high but I didn't mind paying extra for the quality and on-time delivery. I think people need to understand that they are a smaller company and cannot be compared to the Walmarts and Staples. Being a small business owner myself I fully support this business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-24900561459391982092010-07-30T11:22:49.128-04:002010-07-30T11:22:49.128-04:00We had the same problem with these guys, we manage...We had the same problem with these guys, we manage to return the shipping without any incident, We had a conversation recorded with a guy name Bill Turner, be carefulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-50840040717237174142010-07-28T13:50:19.712-04:002010-07-28T13:50:19.712-04:00I have had nothing but good experiences with these...I have had nothing but good experiences with these guys. We have been getting our paper through them for a long time. These anonymous comments seem to be coming from competitors and/or some disgruntled employees to me.Craig Millernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19233276.post-5693210913459355262010-06-02T10:17:04.727-04:002010-06-02T10:17:04.727-04:00Green Shield Industries is no more. We just receiv...Green Shield Industries is no more. We just received an invoice from Digital Network Systems for more of the expensive paper.<br /><br />The original invoice had a price of $54.50 per 1000 sheets, I called to complain and now it is $21.80 per 1000. We paid the invoice as a lady from our company had ordered the paper. We will no longer be getting any more shipments.<br /><br />The address for Green Shield was 388 Carlaw Ave, Unit 124, Box 28, Toronto, On. M4M 2T4.<br /><br />The address for Digital Network Systems (which apparently there was a "reorganization" at the top of the company) is 388 Carlaw Ave, Unit W7, Box 29, M4M 2T4.<br /><br />Watch out for them and their expensive paper. A box of 100% recycled from Staples = $64.96 for 5000 sheets. The same amount of paper with DNS = $272.50 + outrageous shipping and handling.<br /><br />BEWARE!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com